IN THIS SPECIAL EDITION we have interviewed the key programmers that helped shape the direction of the format to its present state. Our sincere thanks to Gordon McLendon, respected as the most creative radio programmer in history. Almost every format heard on the radio today has been influenced by this man. We are also indebted to Rick Sklar, VP ABC Radio, who has guided the ABC stations to dominant market positions,Bill Drake, who had the most dramatic effect on the format and is still today the most successful programmer with over 200 stations currently under his guidance.
Paul Drew, who until recently was VP Programming for RKO, and Kent Burkhart, a man who has been taught by the best and has since added quite a bit to the format himself.
If it were not for these people and the many others involved in the creation of this publication, taking the time to share their knowledge, the opportunity to learn from history might still not exist.
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“WITH A NASAL VOICE LIKE THAT, YOU’LL NEVER MAKE IT”
By JIM DAVIS
(MCRFB Note: Before starting — missed PART 1? Please go here) —
Paul Drew was a disciplinarian. He worked hard, walked fast, listened to his station intently, listened to the competition, expected the best from his staff, would not accept mediocrity, and was constantly chewing on the end of a magic marker. Because of the union at the station, the DJ’s didn’t run their own consoles. That position was occupied by “T.T. ops” (Turn-table operators). His tolerance for a bad “op” was measured in seconds. The best of the ops were for the most part frustrated disc jockeys. Some of them were fantastic….others, not so.
During my 3 years at the station I watched 43 men (no female ops) come and go from their positions. Most of them were T.T. ops that either were fired or quit under the extreme pressure.
Paul expected his jocks to be at the station one hour prior to the air-shift to prepare. That meant reading over the memorandum of instructions (there were many), reviewing alterations to the playlist, practicing live copy, and generally getting “psyched up” to kick the Big 8 in gear.
One winter morning, I had a dead battery which delayed my usual 45 minute drive from Farmington to Windsor by 15 minutes which meant that I would be arriving at the station only 45 minutes prior to my show. Paul checked with the guard gate and found that I was late in arriving. And in a quick phone call, he alerted me that he mandated one hour of preparation time, and that I was not to go on the air until 6:15AM. I wonder today if any program director cares enough to demand their air talents “best effort”?
Paul also had high expectations of himself. He never punched a clock; many times arriving at the station in the wee small hours of the morning. He had a transistor radio with him at all times and rarely missed a set. After doing the all night show for a couple of months when Billy Mack (Kris Eric Stevens) resigned, I was convinced Paul never slept.
The porch lamp in the studio known as the “Batphone” was connected to the PD’s private phone line. If the lamp lit, you could count on the fact that an error had been made. However, Paul always handled the calls with diplomacy and as a professional.
I never heard him raise his voice, although he could be very direct, and sometimes cutting. Example: There was a Mike Rivers “groupie” named Susan who desperately wanted to be the first female Big 8 jock. One day, she was in the lunch room at the station when Paul cruised through. I stopped him and introduced him to Susan. In a burst of energy she said “I’d really like to work here at the Big 8.” Paul’s response: “With a nasal voice like that, you’re wasting your time. You’ll never make it” and without missing a step, he continued walking into the music library. She was crushed. But, in less than 5 seconds he had told her the truth (the rest of us couldn’t). She didn’t have what it took to make it, and was not Big 8 material. Sometime, the truth hurts.
Paul made sure that his jocks got exposure and were always in the limelight. I met many of the Motown artists; MC’d at the (still) popular Roostertail (Paul was friends with the owners, the Tom and Jerry Schoeniths). I even got to host the Robin Seymour “Swingin Time” TV dance show on Channel 9. And, in a highlight I’ll never forget, I got to DJ an elite socialite dance for (a then young) Edsel Ford.
1968 was a busy year. Detroit was still reeling from the riots a year earlier. The Vietnam War took a swing with the Tet Offensive. Martin Luther King was murdered in April. Two months later, Robert F. Kennedy lost his life. And the Detroit Tigers took home the 1968 Pennant as Denny McLain in 1968 became the last pitcher in Major League Baseball to win 30 or more games during a season (31–6) — a feat accomplished by only thirteen players in the 20th century.
Each of these stories were brought to life by CKLW 20/20 news headed up by Dick Smythe who took his news as seriously as Paul Drew took his programming. At one point, CKLW news employed 27 people. Dick taught his people to write with flair utilizing colorful adjectives and descriptive adverbs. The news was full of alliteration and sometimes extremely graphic. I’m convinced that CKLW news was a “tune-in” rather than a “tune-out.”
Paul Drew and his team had brought unmatched success to the Big 8. Within a few months, the competition had been leveled. It was game over for WXYZ and WKNR. Meanwhile, CKLW gained number one status not only in Detroit, but in distant markets like Erie, PA; Fort Wayne, IN; Cleveland, OH; and even my beloved Toledo where I had cut my teeth for the Big 8.
One afternoon in ‘68, Paul called an “all staff” meeting which was his one and only during my time with him. He announced “it was time to go play pool on a bigger pool table.” He was exiting to join the Storer operation in Philly and would be running WIBG.
There was a huge let-down as the news filtered throughout the building. Could we sustain the amazing growth and level of professionalism the station had achieved? Only time would tell.
Gary Mack (MacDowell) who was highly respected in the Drake-Chenault organization would fill the gap temporarily until Jim O’Brien (Oldham) arrived. Jim had stints with Drake at KHJ, Los Angeles and WOR-FM in New York. Jim was an intense, and serious person, dedicated to his own personal success, as well as the company he was working for. He had a voice as big as the State of Texas, where he was born in. He had a young daughter Peri Gilpin (Oldham) that went on to have a famous career of her own as the character Roz on the Frasier television show.
Tragically, Jim was killed in 1983 during a parachute dive while saving the life of another skydiver. Jim’s stay at the Big 8 was brief. He was followed by Captain Showbiz Ted Adkins who brought a sense of camaraderie back to the station. However, Ted was needed in San Francisco at KFRC. All of these changes happened within a year. The Big 8 needed a leader…. And at just the right time, like magic…. Paul Drew returned. CKLW was in capable hands again.
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(Second of 3 parts, to be continued; – Part 3 — Tuesday, July 28, 2015)
A MCRFB Note: Jim Edwards, CKLW
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Motor City Radio Flashbacks recently heard fromJim Davis (July 9, 2015), the former Big 8 jock known as ‘Big Jim’ Edwards on CKLW. A special ‘THANK YOU’ goes out to Jim Davis for sharing his Big 8 recollections with us — today — exclusively here on MCRFB.COM. The SECOND of a three part series, we will publish the THIRD and final part of Jim Davis’ CKLW memories he authored, entitled, “1970,” next Tuesday, July 28, 2015.
October of 1966, I was Assistant PD and Afternoon Drive on WTTO – Toledo, OH. “Wheeto in Toledo” succumbed to the desires of the owners’ wife for “softer music” and it was announced to the staff that WTTO would go “middle of the road.” Lesson learned: Never go to work for a radio station owned by a meat packing company.
So, the scramble began for those of us who loved Top 40 radio to keep the turntables spinning. My friend Ed Busch who had done mid-days on WTTO after Paul Drew canned him at CKLW suggested I might send a tape to Paul who was building a team at the Big 8. So, I took him up on the idea. Since I was playing the mellow sounds of Frank Sinatra and Nat King Cole, I could do nothing except “fake” at tape in the production room. I sent it up along with a resume to Paul Drew and kept my fingers crossed.
It was a Saturday morning. My pilots’ logbook says it was October 21st, 1967. I was practicing touch and go takeoffs and landings at Ellington Aircraft Salvage in Toledo. Suddenly, the Piper Colt radio crackled with the voice of the owner Dick Ellington calling me. He said “I just got a call from your wife. She said it’s important and to land immediately.” So, I hurried from the sky to the little Field Base Operator where I borrowed the phone to call my wife Sylvia. She said “Jimmy, you’ll never believe what just happened.” I said “What.” She said, “This guy called who said he was Paul Drew…. And I knew it wasn’t him so I said ‘and I’m the Easter Bunny’ and hung up.”
Then, his secretary Pat called back and said it was “Mr. Drew” and would I please hold. Paul (not the Easter Bunny) told Sylvia to have me call as soon as I got in. The call was hurriedly made. Paul said: “I heard your tape…. You sounded fake.” (Paul never minced words). I told him it was a fake tape that I had fabricated in the production room. He said, “make another one today, and send it up to me via Greyhound and let me know when it will arrive.” My feet were light as I ran towards the Commodore Perry Motor Lodge to record what I hoped was my big break. The tape was hand carried to the bus terminal, and the call was made. Sunday afternoon the call came from Paul who asked if I could be in his office at 9:00 AM the next morning.
I couldn’t sleep that night. I was afraid of getting stuck in Customs. I was up by 5AM and on the road by 6. By 7:30 AM I was sitting in the lobby of CKLW on Riverside Drive in Windsor, Ontario. About 8:30, I met the receptionist, Rosalie Trombley who was to become the legendary “Rosalie” of Bob Seeger fame. Paul’s secretary Pat Brink came out every ½ hour to explain that Mr. Drew was busy but “he should be with you shortly.” Then, in what appeared to be a streak of a fast moving locomotive, Paul appeared in the lobby and said, “come with me, we have to go to Motown.” Paul had a Pontiac convertible that had a mobile phone in it. I remember thinking how expensive those toys were in those days. The conversation was fast paced. Paul explained how CKLW had a bad reputation because it was Canadian. He said “I don’t care what problem your station has; if it’s FM (not popular in those days), a day-timer, low powered, Canadian etc, if it sounds great people will listen to it.”
We pulled into the back lot of the old 12th street Motown studios. I stayed in the car. Paul went to the back door and knocked. In a brief moment a brown envelope appeared in Paul’s hands and we were back on the road headed back towards Windsor. Paul explained that he had a new Supremes “exclusive” which he would have for a minimum of 12 hours before the competition had the record. It was exciting. The whirlwind that surrounded Paul was evident. On the way back in the car Paul told me: “I’m sharing these things because I assume you are coming to work for us.” That was all I needed to hear. My heart skipped a beat. I was being hired by the Big 8.
Paul said he wanted me for mid-days 12-3PM. He would change my name to “Big Jim Edwards” because there was already a “Jim Davis” in the market on WXYZ. He said “I want you to hit the air prepared, so give your two weeks notice, and then on Saturday and Sunday nights for the next two weekends I want you to do overnights on the Big 8 to get up to speed. He gave me some reading material, and I was out the door.
That Saturday night, I drove to Detroit from Toledo. I had bought a new purple shirt and a tie for my “audition.” I was following the legendary Tom Shannon who I knew from Buffalo as a listener to WKBW while I was growing up. Paul met me at the station bundled up in a large fur coat and carrying a battery operated Zenith Trans-Oceanic radio.
The air studio was known as AB-3 (Announce Booth). It was a large horse-shoe shaped desk with a TV station mike boom which held an Electro-Voice 666 microphone. Brush Clevite earphones screamed the rock and roll (and are the reason I have trouble hearing out of my right ear now). When it was time for me to take to the airwaves, Paul sat across from me with a set of earphones listening to the off air product. There was a definite tension in the air. As I punched on the mike button for my first words on CKLW, I noticed that my hands were shaking like a leaf.
It didn’t take me long to make my first mistake. In fact, it was only 7 minutes. I back-sold the song and gave the time-check and my name and then went into the spot block. Paul took off his headphone and said “You forgot the call letters. You may have lost us valuable listeners. I want you to instruct your engineer to play the same record again, play the same spot again, and see if you can remember to say the call letters this time. Try to never do that again.” I was on edge for the rest of the night. There was no more conversation. Paul simply said “tell your engineer to play a more music fast to fast jingle and record number 1234.” That was it. I was absolutely sure that this would be my last night on the Big 8.
6AM arrived very slowly. I was tired. Paul and I packed it up and left AB-3. As I went for the door he said, “That was the best first effort I’ve heard so far.” I had a reprieve until the next night. I had three more overnight “trials” before I hit the airwaves full-time on November 6th, 1967. I started on the same day as another Big 8 employee started in the newsroom. His name was Gary Mack. However, that name was deemed not authoritative enough, and so, he took his Uncles’ name – Byron McGreggor.
A month later, the station aired the Christmas Wish promotion. My Christmas Wish had come true. I was a Big 8 jock!
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(First of 3 parts, to be continued; Part 2 — Tuesday, July 21, 2015)
A MCRFB Note: Jim Edwards, CKLW
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Motor City Radio Flashbacks recently heard fromJim Davis (July 9, 2015), the former Big 8 jock known as ‘Big Jim’ Edwards on CKLW. A special ‘THANK YOU’ goes out to Jim Davis for sharing his Big 8 recollections with us — today — exclusively here on MCRFB.COM. The first of a three part series, we will publish the second part of Jim Davis’ CKLW memoirs he authored, entitled, “1968-1969,” next Tuesday, July 21, 2015.
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ALSO: Another CKLW aircheck feature going up tomorrow on MCRFB.COM — ‘CKLW-AM Back On The Radio With: Jim Edwards!’ (November, 1967)
LOS ANGELES — If the recording industry will shorten records, Paul Drew, national program director for the powerful RKO General chain of Top 40 operations coast-to-coast, claims his stations will feature longer playlists.
“I can guarantee that playlists will get longer if the records are shorter,” he says.
Drew set a off a storm a week ago when he was accused of stating that his stations would limit records to those less than there-and-a-half minutes long.
But Drew said the original idea came from Herb McCord, general manager of CKLW in Detroit. McCord admits the idea jelled during meetings at the recent seventh annual Billboard Radio Programming Forum in New York. McCord and his programmer Bill Hennes had long discussions with Drew, who still consults CKLW-AM, regarding working and reworking a programming “clock.”
“It has gotten to the point where the Top 40 format clock doesn’t work anymore because of the lengths of records today,” McCord says.
“I’m not making any declaration that we won’t play any record over three-and-a-half minutes long, but if it’s longer it’ll have to be like the second of Christ.”
McCord points out that records by Elton John and other artists of similar stature would, of course, be considered for airplay regardless of length, but “one of the factors we will weigh heavily in regards to the exposure of new records is the length.”
“If the record industry wants exposure of new records on CKLW-AM, particularly product by new and coming artists, they’ll have to make the records shorter,” he says.
Paul Drew, interviewed personally, says he thinks the long record is creating a vicious circle and mentions the rotation pattern used by most RKO General stations; to wit, the longer the records, the less chance of playing more records. He also points out that “Bill Drake cleaned up Top 40 radio nine years ago when he reduced the commercial load at KHJ-AM. We’re not playing any more commercials now than KHJ-AM did nine years ago. Yet, because the records are longer, people think we are.
“Another problem involved is that the cost of radio time has not kept pace with inflationary trends across the nation. Radio today is a damn good buy! We cannot, however, reduce commercials any further.”
Thus, it must be the music that must be flexible.
“I don’t say that recording artists have to go back to the old way of records . . . back when the Beach Boys released records 2:15 minutes long and when the early Beatles had short records.
“And I would encourage artists to continue making long album cuts. But the singles that go on jukeboxes and on the radio should be shorter.”
Drew said that Mick Jagger told him last week that henceforth the B sides of his singles would not be available on any of his albums. Elton John is doing the same thing. (A phone call to MCA Records reveal that John has had the last few B sides exclusively to his singles. Bad Company is doing the same thing now).
Obviously, Drew says these artists are working to help the singles industry . . . “here’s a novel way to rejuvenate singles sales and I think it’s a great idea.”
Drew thinks a 3:30 limit on singles is realistic. “Most program directors of Top 40 stations will tell you that their hot clocks are hinged to a three minute record.
“I’ve been asking people in the record industry for a long, long time to please make shorter records. Obviously, if a given record is four minutes long and is a hit, we’ll play it. But we don’t let the air personalities run our radio stations and for those record companies who say they have no control over their artists and its not their fault how long the records are, I would think the economics of the record business would entail them having a say about the length of records.”
Herb McCord claims that today that there’s hardly room for 10 records an hour. “Five years ago, we used to play 20 records in an hour. Logically, if records average four minutes long each and you have 48 minutes an hour for music, you can only play 12 an hour. If the records average three minute each, you can play 16 an hour, leaving twelve minutes for commercials.
“The playlist is being forced shorter and shorter by the longer records and it’s not our fault.
“Now if a ‘Hey Jude’ comes out, obviously we will play it. But length of records will be a factor in determining whether they get aired on CKLW-AM or not.”
And CKLW-AM will be strongly reluctant to editing records personally. “Who’s CKLW-AM to chop down an Elton John (record)? We just won’t do it.”
Not every radio change is adverse to the longer record nor willing to make definite “not play” statements about long records.
For instance, Rochelle Staab, national music director of Bartell Radio, says that length won’t be a factor. “You just have to make exceptions all the time. For instance, there’s a five minute record out now. You can’t construct a radio station around a three minute record. You’re there to serve the public, not to serve a hot clock.” And the public deserves to hear hit records regardless of the length, she says. END
(Information and news source: Billboard; September 7, 1974).
By Richard Horgan on May 17, 2013 7:10 AM | Fishbowl LA
One can only imagine the great radio tales Paul Drew regaled fellow residents with at Victor Royale Assisted Living, an airy facility in the south end of Glendale just a few blocks away from Forest Lawn. Per an orbit in Billboard by Gail Mitchell, this early architect of the top-40 format knew many of the great ones:
Drew, a graduate of Wayne State University in his native Detroit, began his professional radio career in 1961 as a DJ with Atlanta station WAKE. He later moved crosstown to WGST and then WQXI, where he was promoted to program director. Leaving WQXI in 1967, Drew moved on to programming gigs at CKLW in Windsor, Ontario-Detroit, WIBG in Philadelphia, KFRC in San Francisco and former Los Angeles powerhouse top 40 KHJ.
In the early ‘70s, he was appointed VP of programming for RKO Radio, a nationwide chain whose roster at one time included KHJ and sister KRTH, KFRC, WOR & WXLO (99X) New York and WHBQ Memphis, among other stations in Chicago, Boston and Washington, D.C. Their formats ranged from top 40 and adult contemporary to classical, oldies and talk.
During the course of his career, Drew worked with and/or mentored a diverse array of radio personalities, programmers, consultants and industry writers. That list includes consultants Jerry Clifton and Guy Zapoleon, writers Gerry Cagle (Network 40), Walt “Baby” Love (Radio & Records) and Jerry Del Colliano (Inside Radio), as well as air personalities Rick Dees, Dr. Don Rose, Jay Thomas and Charlie Van Dyke.
The Detroit native’s various radio programming assignments included stints with KFRC in San Francisco and KHJ-AM in Los Angeles. The latter at 930 AM is now a Spanish-language station known as “La Ranchera,” but back in the day, it was a Top 40 power house dubbed “Boss Radio” and buffeted by some great Johnny Mann Singers jingles.
Another highlight of Drew’s career occurred in 1984, when President Reagan appointed him as the first head of a pet foreign-aid project, Radio Marti. The initiative involved beaming U.S. radio programming into Cuba by means of a government-operated radio station. Drew, 78, died of natural causes.
Drew is survived by his former wife, Ann. Funeral arrangements are private. RIP.
(News source: BillboardBiz; May 16, and Mediabistro.com FishbowlLA; May 17, 2013).
DETROIT — Close contact with record promotion men has been a contributing factor in CKLW’s surge to the top in a July-August Hooper audience rating survey, according to program director Paul Drew. The Hot 100 format edged out easy-listening station WJR-AM 20 to 19.9 in total rated time periods. WKNR, once the leading rock ‘n’ roll outlet, had a 13. 6 in the Detroit market. WJR does best in the morning hours, losing out 25.2 to 12.3 in the noon to 6 p.m. slot Monday through Friday. WKNR also tops WJR in the afternoon period.
A “feel” of the market is necessary in order to program a radio station successfully, said Drew. This involves “going where the people go. . . . not watching TV or going where you want to go.”
Promotion men can be a valuable aid in learning what’s on CKLW on March 3. The 50,000-watt station had never before enjoyed good ratings. . . . going on in a market, Drew says. The 50,000-watt station beaming out of Canada into Detroit and beyond had never before enjoyed good ratings. . . . going on in a market, Drew said. CKLW set aside two days each week so promotion men can see the music librarian, he said, “and I try to see them when I can.” Last Monday, for example, Drew took time to talk to Sammy Kaplan, an independent man ” who’s don’t very well and has given us some good information”; Harvey Cooper, RCA-Victor Records; Cliff Goroff, Dot Records; and Russ Yerges, Columbia Records. In addition, Drew tries to take or return every telephone call from all the record men connected with the recording industry for the benefit of where the station has been going both in popularity and market rank.
Team Effort
Drew, formerly music director at WQXI in Atlanta, took over as program director at CKLW earlier this year, which at the time was certainly not benefiting the high ratings it hold now. Drew felt that the achievement was a team effort of the people at the station; though he did bring in some deejays, such as Gary Mitchell, Mike Rivers and Jim Edwards, he did not do the “cleaning house” (Tom Shannon, Dave Schafer remains) that many program directors do. Playlist varies, but centers around a group of 30 records, plus eight or nine “hitbound” selections added each week, plus a few album cuts. Last week, the station was playing one cut from Aretha Franklin’s “Aretha Arrives” LP, “If I Were A Carpenter” from the new Four Tops album “Reach Out,” and a track from Dionne Warwick’s “Window Of The World” LP.
Watches Playlist
A tight playlist doesn’t necessarily mean that a new product won’t get played, he said. Last week, the station went on J. J. Barnes new “Now That I Got You” on Groovesville Records and was also playing the Strawberry Alarm Clock’s “Incense And Peppermints.” A new record by an unknown artist will have trouble making the station’s playlist, he said. . . . “It’s a rare thing, unless it’s a smash in another market.” The station watches closely current radio playlists in Flint and Lansing. At night, CKLW’s signal reaches 18 States, Drew said.
Drew started in radio in 1955 at WHLS in Port Huron, Michigan, after attending Wayne State University in Detroit where he majored in speech and psychology. He was a deejay for four years at WGST in Atlanta, doing a nightly rock ‘n’ roll show for the good music station, there since 1963. It was about this time that Phil Yarbrough, now known as Bill Drake, talked him into joining WAKE in Atlanta, where Drake was program director. Drake went to KYA, San Francisco, and Drew went to WQXI in Atlanta for three years. While there he served as deejay, then program director, then music director for the popular top 40 radio station. END
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(Information and news source: Billboard; September 30, 1967)
MCRFB Note: The Jim Davis YouTube interview featured below took place in 2002. For more on Jim Davis (Big Jim Edwards) today, gohere.
CKLW HIRES DREW, IN STEPS TO TUMBLE DETROIT LEADER WKNR
DETROIT — CKLW, the 50,000-watt RKO General operation here, has brought in Paul Drew as program director and will soon launch an all-out campaign against market-leader WKNR. Drew, former program director at WQXI in Atlanta, has slated May 1 as the day to bow with the station’s new sound — “Fun Radio.”
“Fun Radio” will include a jingles package that was custom made for the station’s and “for the sound I’m looking for,” Drew said.
Prior, there has been talk that Bill Drake, a programming consultant, was going to the station. Drake has set the program for RKO’s KHJ in Los Angeles and also revamped entirely San Francisco’s KFRC — both highly successful today in their markets. Though Drew would not commit himself, every indication is that he’ll use the same template/model that had been programmed at the two leading West Coast stations.
What will be in use will be the same playlist, rule-of-play with a shortened record format. “We’ll play whatever is necessary to play the hits, but the playlist will fluctuate.” This will not eliminate the playing of new records by new artists, evidently, as the station had played on the air about a week ago with “Sunshine Girl” by the Parade, a new record which had been introduced to the station by A&M Records promotion man Don Graham.
Already, CKLW has begun a sort of sneaky promotion campaign, in wake of their intent in placing the station at the top in the Detroit market with no holds barred. WJR, the easy listening outlet in Detroit, as long billed itself as “The Great Voice of the Great Lakes.” CKLW has aired the slogan: “The Choice of the Great Lakes.” WKNR, the leading Hot 100-formatted station in the market, is promoting a concert with Paul Revere & The Raiders on April 8. CKLW had bought a large section of front-row seats to the show and will be giving them away for free to listeners on the air, a ploy in part of the station’s ongoing blitz from the station’s promotion department.
(Information and news source: Billboard; April 8, 1967).